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Benjamin Smythe talks about the role of the spiritual teacher.


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I love this guy.

A must see video.... please leave your comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V926aer-uo&index=5&list=PLT9fcAcA15dBCH...

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I Usually don't allow publicity on this site

 Although I did honor you by opening the last Smythe video you posted.

The first thing that he said was "I usually don't make videos because I refrain from adding rubbish in your head."  That was a good enough truth for me, whereupon I turned it off.

Your Hedderman video link was also bogus.  First of all there was no audio.  Then he was only talking about crap spiritual teachers put in your head.  I know the man well.

It seems like you have a lot to say on this forum, so what is it all about for you?  Otherwise maybe you should be posting on the Smythe site?

 

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I Usually don't allow publicity on this site

You mean you only want to hear what you the Richard want's to hear?

It's kind of like being at school when the teacher say's... learn what I want you to know,not what you want to know - be what I want you to be - not what you want to be.

Yes, I have a lot to say...but do you want to hear it?

As for the man you claim to know well. Well, actually you don't know him at all, you base your knowing of him on your own private interpretations of him on what you are - not what he is - who and what he actually is you have no idea, you do not know the private world he lives in. People assume this kind of thing all the time about how they think they know all about other people. People only want a conversation with you in order to win you over to their side of the debate, to get you to agree and vice versa- otherwise why have a conversation in the first place?

Conversation is just ''sound'' echoing back and forth between two talking animals. Except the animals in this circus just happen to be human. Maybe I'm not here at all, maybe I'm not here at all, maybe there is only sound falling through an empty hole.

I could leave this forum if you are feeling uncomfortable with the kind of material I am posting, I know how hard raw truth is to swallow for those who like to sugar coat reality ...

How about... I spare you the embarrassment of having to ban me...just because I'm different...and I quietly leave , all you have to do is tell me to go, you can do it in code if you like, wouldn't want to spoil your reputation.

I'll just go somewhere else there are plenty of forums on the internet, I'll go somewhere where I will pretend to be sweet and polite so that people will like and respect me, but in reality they won't give a fuck about me.

Your call....

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Are your 769 posts of value to someone?

I have made 289 posts in 6 years, you have made 769 in 18 months.

In some discourses with me you complained about how some self styled elites dominate the world.  Who's the dominator here, you or me?  Fortunately the door swings both ways. Take a holiday any time you want. Have a good life.

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You ARE being singled out

Because your strategy is to be singular.  Most all forums on the web are moderated.  That boils down to unexplained deleted posts, (oops try again.)  

Question: Can you be self-moderated to participate on this forum?

Answer: NO, you cannot thus far do it.

The 20 latest topics are on right column.  You seem to want to continuously occupy as many of those slots as possible, with inconsequential posts.  I take that judgement from your own quote:

Do our voices have any value? I don't know, and who cares?

I care.  If you don’t care what you post, nobody else does either.  You are trying to make this into a who-cares forum, so that new people exploring the 20 latest topic find too many empty (who cares) posts.  The net result, they decide not to post.  I know that because enough new people have asked for an account so that they could post, and then they haven't done it.  It is becoming too much of a renegade forum.

Say something that’s important to yourself, or stay off the forum.  Stay off the right column if you have nothing to say.  Don’t post on other people’s threads unless you can stay on their topic.  If that topic is not interesting, stay off of it.

Try to respect someone.  (But not B.S. Benjamin Smythe excluded).

It’s annoying to waste time making a post like this one.

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Okay, thanks for the warning, and thanks for giving me a chance to reform myself. I will take heed of everything you've said. I do agree with you and want to extend sincere apologies for any disrespect on my part. Can we be friends and start again? I only meant to say who cares in the context whereby what ever one does or say - life will still go on regardless. Life doesn't care whether human lives or dies, so there is nothing to do to save yourself or others. I don't mean for that to sound cold, it's just how it is. I was only using the saying ''who cares'' in the nondual context which is the root of all my writing and the purpose of being here in the first place, if the way in which I express my feelings about reality is putting people off from posting here then I'm sorry about that....I'll try to have more sensitivity when it comes to the feeling of others.

I can't talk about worldly stuff, I am very aware of what's going on in the world, but I do not understand the politics surrounding worldly affairs and so am not confident enough to talk about something that I don't know anything about. I'm being honest when I say, I do not understand the workings and ways of worldly affairs, it's just all too controlled and political for my liking but that's not to say I am not aware of what's going on.

I could do what Benjamin Smythe does and walk around shopping malls and town centres holding up a placard with the words ''YOUR PERFECT'' written on it, that might help people feel better, or ,make the world a more smiley face place?

I joined your forum because I like to post stuff about nonduality. I've been on this ND theme nearly all my life as far back as I can remember. I was born like this, it came natural to me.

The trouble started when one of the posters here replied to some of my threads throwing ideas around that I was not a realised person, and that I did not understand the concept of true realisation, and that I could not possibly know or understand the quotes of what other guru's were saying about nonduality because I was taking their ideas out of context. I guess I got a bit annoyed because I've been on this path for so long and know it inside out, and so when some young dude half my age comes along telling me I have no idea what I am talking about. Well, that's kind of annoying, I guess I should have had the maturity to ignore, so yeah, I'm guilty as charged for over reacting.

Maybe a good moderator was not available to stop the feuds before they got too deeply ingrained.....Hmm, anyway,the thing is, a true nondual thinker knows that we are all enlightened meaning there is no one to be enlightened in the first place.

It is human nature to want to agree or disagree with other's points of view, but that doesn't give people the authority to tell others they have no understanding of what it is to be realised. And for this reason I will not get into any more agree or disagree games with anyone here ever again.

I will just say what is important to myself, like you proposed I do.. I hope that's okay with you, if not then I'll stay away for good.

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If you have had this (curse) all of your life,

No wonder you have a hard time empathising where others might be coming from.

If you can’t navigate in any domain of life, I am sure that it is a failed world view that blocks you.  You seem to be convinced that it has nothing to do with what you say or believe, and that by insisting more, you will make that true.  Well, thanks anyway for admitting that you have nothing to add to the world, (comments or actions).  Inactions are actions by the way.

(I have always been puzzled by Smythe’s cardboard signs, that add one minute or nothing to the respondents, and that he exploits as a cheap photo op.)  Don’t bother mimicking that.

My goal is to somewhat follow the expectations of newbies, (we’re all enlightened here aren’t we, and kind and polite?)  And still allow free debate.  I have this idea, see if you like it.

I used to make private rooms on this forum and I have had very meaningful conversations with 10, 15 or 25 people with many 100’s of posts, while everybody else was posting normally outside the room.  We were able to get into deeper, and more personal stuff.  I think I could remember how to do it.

The “back room” would be by invitation only.  We could put the hardened criminals in it.  For the participants it would be just like normal, only another forum category “the Back Room”.  Posts originated in the back room would also appear on the 20 latest side bar like normal.  But anybody without an enabled account wouldn’t see any of it, neither on the side bar nor the category title.  Their side bar would just contain their outside the room posts.

For me it would be the best of both worlds, new people would think this a pleasant place, and it could be all claws and fangs in the back.  (I am not suggesting that it has to be aggressive.)  But a lot of (for me) pointless discussions (about the weight of nothingness) could entertain the crazies and not confound the guests.

If you ever get a good thread, I could move it outside for public viewing.  If you ever forget and put a wanky post outside, I could move it and throw it into the wolves den.

  • Would you do it?
  • How many people would you invite?
  • I could just put them in, and they wouldn’t realise the difference,  Then see who starts to comnment and if it takes off.
  • or they could ask to be relieved of reading your stuff, and get un-enabled.
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''If you have had this (curse) all of your life,''

Now you see, I simply do not know what you mean by saying''curse'' - it is a meaningless thing to say to me. I don't need to get offended by such a statement made at me because I do not know what is meant by the statement.

''No wonder you have a hard time empathising where others might be coming from.''

I understand and do empathise where others might be coming from.Just because I occupy my thoughts in a nondual context doesn't mean I have no empathy for others. In fact I have more empathy for others because I am a nondual thinker. I see that we are all experiencing the same hard knock life struggles, no one is immune from it. The only thing I have to offer the world is to say get yourself awakened. It's not going to change the struggles but it may alleviate the suffering of any struggle.

''If you can’t navigate in any domain of life, I am sure that it is a failed world view that blocks you. You seem to be convinced that it has nothing to do with what you say or believe, and that by insisting more, you will make that true. Well, thanks anyway for admitting that you have nothing to add to the world, (comments or actions). Inactions are actions by the way.''

See, I'm not really sure what you mean here by not navigating in any domain - I've done what I needed to do, I've single handedly raised 4 children to successful adulthood. One is studying for a PHD in geographical sciences. Another one is a Teamleader for a computer website designing company in Oslo Norway where he is now living and married to a nice Norwegian girl and they have a baby girl. Another child is a co-ordinator /administrator for the National Trust here in England. The youngest child is at university. My point is..their success was down to their parenting. I did that job all on my own, I was a consistently good parent, and that was my gift to the world. Making sure I was contributing positively to society by taking responsibility in raising well balanced, mature, self reliant independent people who have a lot to offer in way of their skill and to be able to pass their success on to their own children who are the future generation and so on and on.
Can I add any more to the world than that?

'' Inactions are actions by the way.''
I do understand the concept of yin & yang.
It's the same as Non-violence is violence. The same way Non-duality is duality.

''(I have always been puzzled by Smythe’s cardboard signs, that add one minute or nothing to the respondents, and that he exploits as a cheap photo op.) Don’t bother mimicking that.''

I do not know the motive behind Ben's reason for doing what he does. But I do resonate with him 100% - I find him quite amusing and very endearing. He may come across as a little insane to some people, but I see a very beautiful person behind that craziness - It's kind of like different strokes for different folks - He's different that's all -I watched a Rick Archer interview with Ben on youtube ''Buddha At The Gas Pump'' - it turns out Ben is quite a regular normal guy like most people are. It was a nice interview - perhaps worth a look.
He's just trying to live a sane life in an insane world like everybody else.Sometimes people may choose to reverse it by acting like a raving insane lunatic in order to fit in with the current trend of the world, for how ever the world appears to us - it is what it is because we have moulded it that way. It's all perception, sometimes the insane people are the only sane people, whereas sane people are the insane ones... How can we ever tell who is pulling the wool over our eyes or who is bluffing?
Who is being a sheep in wolf's clothing or a wolf in sheep's clothing? We just can't know. What we all need to remember is to be as gentle as a lamb, but as slippery as a snake.

''I have this idea, see if you like it.''

I like it, but it's up to you to do what you like, and let people follow you if that's what they want, it's your forum.

Personally, I would leave it how it is, I think it's fine exactly how it is. More moderating would be a good idea, and some proper quote boxes might be very helpful, and perhaps some emoticons that may help show what mood other people are in would be an excellent idea.

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OK, enough said

let's see what you come up with. I hope you find what you're looking for. Thanks for telling about yourself. Have a good time.

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