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Greetings, everyone. I'm glad to have found this site.

I was a yoga teacher for many years. I understand the importance of body energies in spirituality, but I felt yoga (as practiced in the US)emphasized the body too much. I explored Zen and meditation for about five years, but felt that that community didn't really believe in enlightenment. They just wanted to be good, ethical people, which is great, but you don't need spirituality for that. Or I would say that being ethical is the foundation of any spiritual practice, but if you stop there, you're missing an awful lot.

So the past few years I've been exploring nonduality, which I felt really woke me up. Ah, what a relief! No matter how good or bad things are in my life, it's good to be awake. I currently study with Fred Davis.

I look forward to getting to know you all.

Kathleen

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Hey hey!

Hello! Nice to have you here, hope to see you in the nonduality forum.

- Jared

You Are Tacit.

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Thanks Jared

I agree there's no perfect philosophy. Non-duality seems to be pointing me to the truth right here and now, and for that I'm most grateful. But I appreciate that every other philosophy and practice has been part of my path. I'm thoroughly burned out on yoga, but I still love Zen Buddhism. But I recognize that both have helped me.

And as much as I love non-duality, I rarely recommend it to anyone. Everyone will naturally be drawn to the path that works best for them.

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Hi Nutmeg, thanks for jumping in.

You say some Zen community just wanted to be good ethical people.  But they didn’t believe in setting up a quest for themselves.  What’s Wrong With That?

Well, they’re missing an awful lot.

So that’s my question:  What are they missing, and what has non-duality brought to the table to “really wake you up”?

Then you reference the good and bad things in my life.  Do you take action with regard to either of those two categories?  How does that work out?  How's it different than before?

Thanks for considering.

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Hi Richard

Thanks for your thoughtful questions. I felt the local Zen community had become complacent and even cynical about the possibility of waking up. (It's a small group of people, so not that representative of Zen as a whole). But I found no one really wanted to talk about awakening. They were just focused on ritual and everyday life. Non-duality, for me, by contrast, gave me pointers to wake up and also the belief that such a thing was possible.

Regarding good and bad things in life, I have more equanimity. I still struggle with the "bad." But knowing that it is all part of awareness, and not "real" helps immensely.

Kathleen

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“They were just focused on ritual and everyday life.”

Hi Nutmeg,

With regard to a certain community you said, “They were just focused on ritual and everyday life.”

Maybe that IS waking up??  whether they thought of it in that way or not.

Another thing you said is that knowing it is not “real” helps me immensely.  

I am going to take that statement to mean that things are open to interpretation.  Not Real, not fixed, not able to say I know for sure, so there is room for doubt.

Now instead of saying that “the bad event is not real anyway”, what if we say that the “badness quotient” in that event is not real, whether or not the event is real, (But the event is here and it’s appearing in my life.)  If it is about work, relationships, family, health etc., it is real enough, and important to consider.

Then I don’t have to reject what is happening, but just see deeper into it to find what’s bugging me about it, and what is it that makes the BAD Feeling, which I presume is why it becomes classified as bad.

You don’t need non-duality for that, and I would say the all-around results are better withoout it.  You’re still fully able to work with what appears in life.

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Hi Richard

Thanks for your response. I like the "badness quotient" concept. True enough, the circumstance is here, but the difficult feelings piled on top are what make it painful.

Part of the Action

We remain committed to be on the forefront of what will support life, both in your family and on planet earth. 

 

My interaction with you is an Experiment to further enable this vision to be true, and up to the rhythm that you are a part of the action.  

 

Please contribute to make this vision real.  

With Heart Felt Thanks, Richard Miller.

  

 

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