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Pushing the Button
Please read the two e-mails that were sent to me privately by Chuckles. I guess that I must be doing some good on this forum. Surely, this is an oppourtunity for 'Chuckles' to go beyond or see through the falsehood of the limited and separate body-mind-ego. Judge for yourself:
"Let me ask you something, asshole. Were you shocked when that repulsive little infant came out of your wife's grotesque pussy? Is that why you became interested in nonduality? To escape from your miserable, disappointing life? How did a retard like you become a "research psychologist"? What do you do all day? Experiment on whackjobs? You have a lofty title like "research psychologist" and you spend your time on a stupid nonduality forum arguing with fuckheads like me? What are you trying to prove? If there's no one there, then who the fuck is it that cares so goddamned much about proving me wrong? You're just a pathetic, miserable disillusioned "psychologist" who at one time hoped to find answers in psychology, only to realize that your whole career was total fucking meaningless sham....aren't you, you cocksucker? And now you're spinning nonduality concepts inside of your pathetic little skull as a way of living in denial and escaping from your nightmare existence. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! THAT'S FUCKING HILARIOUS, YOU PATHETIC FUCK!!"
"Hey, what's up, dude? Err, I mean, I realize there's no dude, there...just THAT. So you won't mind what I'm about to say. Anyways, you have a really fucking ugly baby, you know that? Your baby is so goddamned ugly. It looks like a ferret mated with curly from the three stooges. But there's no one there to offend, so there should be no issue in me saying this."
Peace and love to you Chuckles.
p.s. beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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I didn't write that awful crap. You're making that shit up just to make me look bad, so you can prove to everyone that you're Enlightened and that I'm not.
Chuckles will never see through the false self, you idiot. He is the false self. But unlike you his identity isn't wrapped up in proving to others that he's enlightened.
Again -- what are you trying to prove, Mr. Enlightened Nobody? Obviously you have an agenda. Does Awareness have agendas, or do people?
Stop trying to claim Awareness, you pathetic, miserable little thought.
"Chuckles (http://www.nevernothere.com/users/chuckles) has sent you a message via your contact form(http://www.nevernothere.com/user/204/contact) at Never Not Here. If you don't want to receive such e-mails, you can change your settings at http://www.nevernothere.com/users/claritybrown1."
Also, in your most recent post: "Stop trying to claim Awareness, you pathetic, miserable little thought."
Exactly the same sort of content in the e-mails that I wa sent. What lies now?
I rest my case.
I understand you are shocked by these nasty mails. But to put it out here, I don't really see the point of it. Perhaps it's better to remove the content of the mails from your post. I don't really see a constructive dialogue coming from this.
But to give my constructive share: There are a lot of frustrated people in the seeker realm. Is it mandatory to be frustrated, or is it possible to search without frustration?
(or are searching and frustration deeply connected?)
I agree Arjen. I put it 'out there' because I want Chuckles to recognise for himself the anger, hate, and frustration in the words. Perhaps by seeing things from a third party perspective, then some insight might happen.
Of course, frustration and searching are deeply connected, but only for the imagined character. My whole point is that the imagied character can be seen for what it is RIGHT NOW; that is, non-existent. No time is required. I'm not saying that searching should not happen; if it does then that's fine. However, if the searching can be seen as no different from what is being searched for then seeking aoutmatically ends (of its own volition).
Chuckles can express as much frustration and anger as he or she wishes; it makes no difference to Self. He/she can be as insulting as he/she likes - as there is no one to insult (only an imagined character). That character is lived 'as if' real, but really it is non-existent. Chuckles conviently uses the idea that no one exists so therefore is fine to be insulting; however, this is just a clever attempt by the 'me' to justify and validate such attacks.
I do not follow any 'master', read books, etc. That may have happened in the 'past' for a character, but is seen as simply another story. The only teacher is NOW; it is always self-evident. So simple, yet apparently so easily over looked. There appears to be an impulse for this character to share this knowing, but of course that is only an appearance. This is Self sharing itself; it has nothing to do with 'me'. I try to express as clearly and concisely as possible. I will not however be shaken from the truth, which is impossible anyway. The conviction is absolute. The words are all we have here and are so limited and easily misinterpreted.
To come back to your first point, no, I don't think that a constructive dialogue will come from Chuckles and I. I guess there comes a time when you are flogging a dead horse. However, in the dream, I will not be bullied or insulted by Chuckles or any other character. And these types of e-mails are shocking and have no place on any type of forum.
When I went to gymnasium in Italy we studied Dante`s Divina Commedia. We studied it thoroughly the last three years. First year the Inferno ( Hell), second year the Purgatoty, the third year the Paradise.
During the third year we realized that the Paradise was quite boring and we didn`t understand so much about it although we found it also very suggestive.
On the contrary, we had a lot of fun with the Hell. Of course it was also very frightful to read about the suffering of the sinners, but we found it interesting and palpably human.
Dante himself was a sinner and when he met persons in Hell who were condemned for same kind of sin as his he meditated upon their lot, feeling deep compassion. They were of course not just characters for him, but real hummans.
Now I understand more about the Paradise and Dante`s spiritual journey. He had to travel through Hell to the putification of the Purgatory to come to the place where he met "the Love which moves all the stars".
Now how the devil did I get this Dante idea reading about this topic?
I think it came when I first realized that it was interesting and fun when somebody get really angry. But then I thought about Dante`s compassion with the sinners because he was a sinner too.
what caused this person to make such a disturbing rant?
ClarityBrown1 seems to be an enlightened person to me.
People on this site are either enlightened or seeking enlightenment.I think ClarityBrown1 is doing the best he can to be helpful.
chuckles... if you're out there, what caused you to be so upset?