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Jacob Needleman is a professor of philosophy at San Francisco State University.I haven`t read any of his books yet, but I checked him out on the Wikipedia, where I also found this beautiful allegory, the "mountain climb" allegory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Needleman from where I quote:

Needleman speaks of a mountain that is very high, and being at the top of the mountain is being with God. The base of this mountain is so broad that it extends out to several different climate zones. People from the artic climate have a tradition about how to climb the mountain, wearing a parha with snowshoes and goggles, etc. The people in the tropical zone teach how it is necessary to wear short pants and a pith helmet with mosquito netting. The people in the artic, by the time they get halfway up the mountain find that it is warmer than they had thought so they shed some of their outwear. The people from the tropics find the need to go back to get a sweater. By the time they get to the top, they`re all dressed in a similar way because there is only one top.

The problem Needleman cautions about is when people walk around the base of the mountain arguing with each other about the proper way to dress for the journey.

Anna

Several months ago I was in meditation when suddenly there was a dramatic shift in my awareness/identity. The experience was very different than any other meditation experience that I ever have had. It was as if the center of my awareness no longer had an I that related to the world around me or my thoughts.
Nothing was changed in my enviroment and inwardly thinking was occuring but the sense that "I" was doing this was gone. I got up,walked around and experienced this for some time but started thinking "I'm not ready to live like this". This lasted for several hours and then faded. When I told my wife about this experience she was concerned that I had a stroke during meditation. I'm not prone to strokes.
Since this experience the sense that I am the doer is not as definite.
I was wondering if this experience is common/normal for deep meditation.
Ross

I hope you`ll enjoy the conversation between these two guys as much as I did.

http://www.whatifitreallyworks.com/2012/07/11/bruce-lipton-and-tom-campb...

Anna

Hi All,

I have some lecture excerpts that you might be interested in. It's from a Buddha Master from the Falun Dafa school of QiGong. A very high level cultivation technique that is very righteous and powerful:

www.falundafa.org

I recommend checking this out, especially the book 'Zhuan Falun':

http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/pdf/zfl_new.pdf

Wow what a read, it covers so many things, from the mysteries of the microcosm to the macrocosm, other dimensions, the soul, ancient prehistory, supernatural latent abilities, chi, gong energy and so many other things.

This practice is also being severely persecuted by the Chinese Communist Party with practitioners being sent to concentration camps, tortured, there organs sold on the black market and often killed:

http://en.minghui.org/c/1/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yL4KrZsDVM

In these following lecture excerpts, the founder of Falun Dafa, Mr Li hongzhi spells out the Alien Agenda that is upon this earth and it's implications to humanity as a whole.

The rest of the lectures that have been given around the world can be found here:

http://www.falundafa.org/eng/books.html

Also Mr Li Hongzhi has been interviewed by Time Asia, another fascinating read:

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2053761,00.html

But in closing, here are the lecture excerpts on the Alien Agenda that is taking place on our planet, I hope you will find them of interest.

Quote:

As I take a moment, prior to any "exchange" with another fellow traveler on this journey and consider that what they are be bringing to the table, may possibly Not be who they really Are, I am graced with a different "view" of who I am communicating with. Moreover and in Most cases, what I am seeing and hearing is just a byproduct of social conditioning, ingrained patterning, belief systems and experiences.
With this knowing, it becomes easier to find and relate to what I will call "the foundational self". As I ask myself who this soul was prior to the pain, fear, abandonment, etc. I find the answer to Always be the same. I am talking to a beautiful, innocent, vulnerable, sometimes scared and lonely Child of our Creator.
I am talking to "me"~♥
Even if they are screaming at me, my "filter" is already in place and what I hear is a cry for Love, a desire to be understood and held in the Light of who they Really Are. With this "view" I can truly be of service to them, As "ME". After all, we may look and sound different, come from different backgrounds, cultures and belief systems, yet our "foundational selves", the *child* before training is Always exactly the same. Ahhhhh <> <> <> WeBeOne~!

I have tried to be all things Good and Holy~
A good Father, Brother, Friend and Mate~
I have fallen short of these goals more that I wanted to, more than I intended to~
I have chased the "feeling" of joy and bliss, peace and contentment in absolutely Every way that I could think of~
I have sought escape from fear and pain in many, many ways~
I have consumed every substance, read every book, changed my diet, done every meditation and yoga known to man in an attempt to rise above the illusion, to stop the mind, the senses and the sadness... to no avail~
I have reached the heights of nirvanic ecstasy and worn the chains of addiction, alcoholism, self hatred, spirituality, knowledge, wisdom and enlightenment ~
Today, This Moment, I know that I am None of these things and acts~
Today, This Moment, I know that I am All of these things and acts~
I am, as you are, All things Human and All things Divine~
Today I can greet the rising sun and know that I know nothing~
Today I can rest here~
Today I am whole~

It is a common mis-perception in the "seeking realm" that upon reaching or gaining Enlightenment (a state that is Always so), one will feel only Bliss and Nirvanic Ecstasy.
We think that of our woes and our pains will suddenly dissolve into some void and that we will ride forever, the pink cloud of paradise.
All of these "feelings" and "experiences", being transitory, come and go, yet One finds, upon awakening to their own true nature that the Joy And the Pain in this *human experience* only become Deeper, Richer and Colored as a vast Nebula which never fears its end, nor questions its origin~
The Nothing becomes All becomes Nothing and it is Exquisitely perfect in this Miraculous dance of seeming opposites~ Ahhhhhhh So *B* It~
Love to you~

Where are all the new videos on Never Not Here? Am I on strike?

I lived in Italy more than a decade, so maybe I am part Mediterranean by now. I love the heat of the summer and I like to be out and enjoying it. One thing we are putting our time toward is our garden.

I thought that I wanted to share it.   So here is what it looks like so far this year.  (You can tell us what you are  doing this summer.)

Some people talk and some don't.  I suppose you have to honor that.  But it must also signify something?  Lately we are getting so few comments, even though a lot of new content is going up.  If you start to notice the messages that repeat in that content, we talk more and more about participation, which seems to have had a reverse effect.  

I see the on-line statistics from the back end, and the "talk rate" is incredibly low, only a few out of each thousand.  You all must truly believe in your personal drama.  What can I say?  Get retired and have some fun out of life.

They say you can catch more flies with honey than with admonitions or a kick in the pants.  But I am modeling a tremendous freedom that I easily get out of this website.  I know that you can get it too.  Quit playing your cards so incredibly close to your chest.  Come and really join the party of life!

This may be totally unrelated to this forum but I thought I'd share something that has started occurring to me with greater frequency over the past six months. The occurrence is that everyone is looking familiar. Now, I do know the adage that the older one gets the more people look familiar but this seems different. For one thing it isn't a person or two here and there. It's more like when it happens it's 90% of the people in the room, store, office. When it's not happening, it's the usual occasional person, more like how it's always been. For example, I was in the waiting room of a hospital in the outpatient surgery area. The hospital was located 100+ miles from my home. I felt I recognized at least 20 of the people from somewhere (I know not where). The recognition is so strong it is as though I had met before each of them before and heard their story. Not that I could tell you specifics but I felt as though I had heard their story (which apparently I had now forgotten). It's as if I am left with with nothing but the recognition of a familiar face and a strong sense of knowing of their happiness, or sorrow, or pain. But I do seem to know them if I could only remember their names which I can't. I have worked as a psychiatric nurse for 26 years. I have heard many, many people's stories. I can understand why I would not remember individuals. However, I know these are not former patients. I also know they are not former acquaintances of mine. The sense of knowing them is so strong that it makes me wonder why I can't remember more.